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 Post subject: 50 dead, 53 injured in Florida nightclub massacre
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:46 pm 
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So last night, a heavily-armed aspiring ISIS member named Omar Mateen, who had been investigated by the FBI twice, strolled into a well-known gay nightclub in Orlando at about 2 AM, took hostages and began executing people, evidently managing to shoot over a hundred people before finally being shot and killed himself by police. So far at least 50 are confirmed dead and 53 injured, many of them critically, so the death toll could still rise.

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50 killed in Florida nightclub, shooter pledged ISIS allegiance
By Ashley Fantz, Faith Karimi and Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN

Orlando, Florida (CNN) -- A gay nightclub here was the scene early Sunday of the worst terror attack in U.S. history since 9/11.
* 50 people were killed inside the Pulse club and at least 53 people were injured, police say.
* The gunman was Omar Mateen of Ft. Pierce, Florida, a law enforcement source told CNN.
* Orlando police shot and killed Mateen
* Mateen called 911 around the time of the attack to pledge allegiance to ISIS and mention the Boston bombers, according to a U.S. official.
"It appears he was organized and well-prepared," Orlando Police Chief John Mina said early Sunday. The shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and "some type of (other) device on him."
There has been no claim of responsibility for the attack on jihadi forums, but ISIS sympathizers have reacted by praising the attack on pro-Islamic State forums.
Officials, aided by the FBI, warned that a lengthy investigation was ahead given the number of victims and the scope of the violence.
"We know enough to say this was an act of terror and act of hate," President Obama said in an address to the nation from the White House.
While the violence could have hit any American community, "this is an especially heartbreaking day for our friends who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender," he said.
Much more at the various links above.

It's probably worth noting than an ISIS affiliate put out a public "kill list" of more than 8,000 people, including 600 Florida residents, three days earlier.

UPDATE: ISIS claims responsibility. :x

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Last edited by CWS on Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:32 pm 
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Nothing's going to get done about the gun issue. Calling it now. If you couldn't do it for a classroom full of dead kids, you sure as hell ain't doing it now. :x Also, it goes without saying, but FUCK ISIL.


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Nothing's going to get done about the gun issue. Calling it now. If you couldn't do it for a classroom full of dead kids, you sure as hell ain't doing it now. :x Also, it goes without saying, but FUCK ISIL.
That's probably because the "gun issue" is completely and utterly irrelevant here, even more than it is every other time the Left's collective knee jerks toward it.

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CWS wrote:
snowman1989 wrote:
Nothing's going to get done about the gun issue. Calling it now. If you couldn't do it for a classroom full of dead kids, you sure as hell ain't doing it now. :x Also, it goes without saying, but FUCK ISIL.
That's probably because the "gun issue" is completely and utterly irrelevant here, even more than it is every other time the Left's collective knee jerks toward it.


You can't be serious. The gun issue "isn't relevant?" THEN WHAT THE FUCK DID THAT MANIAC USE TO KILL 50+ PEOPLE?! A SPORK? And why was this FBI listed American (yes, he IS American) allowed to legally acquire not just explosives, but a fucking military grade assault rifle?! The fuck is wrong with you?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:25 pm 
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snowman1989 wrote:
You can't be serious. The gun issue "isn't relevant?" THEN WHAT THE FUCK DID THAT MANIAC USE TO KILL 50+ PEOPLE?! A SPORK? And why was this FBI listed American (yes, he IS American) allowed to legally acquire not just explosives, but a fucking military grade assault rifle?! The fuck is wrong with you?
I'm so glad we can discuss this in a calm and civil manner. :roll:

1. Yes I know he was an American. Who swore allegiance to ISIS, which is not.

2. Obviously the FBI dropped the ball. Badly. I could easily guess why, and I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. (Hint: this is probably why.)

3. Considering the guy worked as a security officer, and he was not under investigation or surveillance by anyone, there would have been no conceivable reason for any licensed gun dealer NOT to sell to him, and he would have had a slam-dunk discrimination lawsuit against them if they did. I know he had a concealed carry permit, but what explosives was he "allowed to legally acquire"?

4. This nightclub, just like the scene of virtually every single other mass shooting ever, was a designated "gun-free zone". Funny how determined murderers tend not to obey laws like that.

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Well what have we here.

The Daily Mail wrote:
Gun shop owner claims he reported Omar Mateen BEFORE Orlando massacre and turned him away when he came to buy heavy duty armor and bulk ammo

  • Lotus Gunworks said Omar Mateen 'asked unusual questions' last month
  • He demanded heavy duty body armor used by law enforcement officers
  • When they said they didn't have that, he requested bulk ammunition
  • The store's owner said he reported the incident to the authorities in May
  • Mateen later bought an AR-15 and semiautomatic pistol from another store
  • And he was 'seen on CCTV buying ammunition with his wife in June'


By Mia De Graaf For Dailymail.com
Published: 10:07 EST, 16 June 2016 | Updated: 16:50 EST, 16 June 2016


A gun store owner reported Orlando shooter Omar Mateen to authorities weeks before he committed the worst mass shooting in US history.

Robbie Abell, co-owner of Lotus Gunworks, told the Wall Street Journal Mateen came into the store in South Florida in May and asked for heavy-duty body armor like the kind used by law enforcement.

Staff at the store, which does not sell body armor, felt it was a strange demand.

After his request was denied, Mateen asked to buy bulk ammunition.

Though Lotus does sell ammunition, staff shut down his request and refused to sell him anything else.

They subsequently reported the incident to the FBI, Abell said.

Mateen had already been investigated by the FBI years before.

But even after Abell's report, the 29-year-old self-radicalized gunman obtained an AR-15 and a semiautomatic pistol from another store in the area, bought stacks of ammunition, then opened fire on Pulse nightclub, where he killed 49 people and wounded 53.

The store's owner Robbie Abell told the Journal: 'The questions he was asking were not the normal questions a normal person would be asking…He just seemed very odd.'

Abell also said Mateen was speaking to someone on the phone in Arabic and was walking around the store texting.

Mateen is of Afghan descent, where the official languages are Pashto and Dari. It is not clear how Abell's staff deduced he was speaking Arabic.

He added that staff were on high alert since authorities has recently warned them to look out for suspicious activity in the area.

Abell did not specify which authorities gave this warning.

Port St Lucie police said they did not receive a report about Mateen's suspicious behavior.

The FBI has yet to comment.

Once it emerged that Mateen was the perpetrator of the worst mass shooting in history, Abell said, Lotus staff instantly recognized him and reported their experience to the FBI.

e added that he was glad they did what they could to block him.

'If something is suspicious, it’s our discretion. We are the gatekeeper,' Abell told the Journal.

Mateen bought his murder weapons from St Lucie Shooting Center days before his attack.

Ed Henson, the reitred NYPD officer who owns St Lucie Shooting Center, defended himself in the wake of the massacre saying, 'I don't make the laws.'

He insisted he put Mateen through the necessary background checks before selling him an AR-15 and a semiautomatic pistol.

Detectives have also been investigating whether there were explosives at the scene after witnesses said Mateen threatened to rig himself and his hostages with bombs.

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Huh. So with new evidence having come to light via the trial, it now looks like Mateen did not, in fact, target Pulse because it was a well-known gay venue...but rather, because it was simply the softest target he could find on short notice (his first choice had apparently been Disney World).

So that's kind of interesting.

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