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 Post subject: Jonathan and Christopher Nolan's Interstellar
PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:29 am 
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Although this teaser trailer reveals few details about the Nolan brothers' upcoming venture into the realm of science fiction, at the same time it is heavy with implied meaning.

As short as it is, it strikes a tremendously powerful emotional chord with me, personally, and at this particular point in time, for reasons that will probably be obvious. But beyond that I will let it speak for itself.


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 Post subject: Re: Jonathan and Christopher Nolan's Interstellar
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Welp, Michael Caine is in it, guess it's a Nolan movie. Wish that trailer really gave any hint at what the movie is really about.

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Well, quoting from the official site...
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In the future, governments and economies across the globe have collapsed, food is scarce, NASA is no more, and the 20th Century is to blame. A mysterious rip in spacetime opens and it's up to whatever is left of NASA to explore and offer up hope for mankind.
Wow. That makes the trailer even more interesting, IMO.

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Those two sentences were infinitely better than that trailer was.

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EDIT: I'm highly annoyed that this trailer wasn't up yet when I went to see Godzilla yesterday. I was really hoping to see this instead of another trailer for Seth McFarlane's latest worthless fucking piece of shit.

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The third and final trailer for Interstellar has been released. In my opinion, it's also the most exciting.


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This is astonishing. Who knew that...thing...in the trailer was a "real" black hole?

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The simulation they ran actually produced a new discovery, or so the science blog mill is reporting. So I guess I'd take that with a grain of salt, at least. Specifically, the sheer gravity of the black hole warping the accretion disc so that it forms this extra halo.

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Didn't science also recently prove black holes weren't actually a thing?

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Zanth wrote:
Didn't science also recently prove black holes weren't actually a thing?
My understanding of the situation is that simulations using commonly accepted mathematical models for how black holes behave, didn't actually reproduce the observed behavior of black holes. Whether the models are incorrect, or whether black holes aren't what we think they are, they still exist.

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Zanth wrote:
Didn't science also recently prove black holes weren't actually a thing?

How's that, exactly? Especially since a brief web search suggests the opposite...

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Yeah, it's basically what The Phiend said. Our understanding of black holes is extremely limited, so surprises aren't to be unexpected. I've also seen criticism of those simulations... so... :?:

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The two things I read were these:

http://unc.edu/spotlight/rethinking-the ... -universe/

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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... astronomy/

Take them as you will. It's an unknown science and pretty much all theory, so who's to say who is right, etc etc.

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The thing I read was the conclusions section of the paper dated last month.

Basically their simulations indicate that decaying stars do start collapsing inwards on themselves, but at a certain size they start expelling mass which slows the collapse (less mass means less gravity). The slowing halts before the star's size ever actually gets below the event horizon (ie becomes a singularity), then the direction reverses and it starts expanding, the interior expands faster than the interior...and their simulation can't handle the interior crossing the exterior, so there's no telling what happens after that.


So assuming the simulations and the mathematical modelling behind them are wholly accurate, that means it's physically impossible for a singularity to form. If that's the case, black holes necessarily can't be the result of singularities. (Zanth's second link mentions Hawking proposing that black holes exist, but aren't singularities and don't have event horizons; instead, they have "apparent horizons" that gather matter and energy and later release them as radiation. Since decaying stars are already known to emit radiation, this release would be indistinguishable from the rest of the radiation, meaning it would appear that matter and energy entering it never left.)


It may be worth noting that the paper was submitted to a repository that isn't peer reviewed.

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Zanth wrote:
The two things I read were these:

http://unc.edu/spotlight/rethinking-the ... -universe/

and

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... astronomy/

Take them as you will. It's an unknown science and pretty much all theory, so who's to say who is right, etc etc.

Well...you kinda did, when you said
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Didn't science also recently prove black holes weren't actually a thing?
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Very interesting subject, in any case.

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I kinda meant that more as "prove" than a definitive. My bad for lazy typing.

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Well I just got home from the movie, and...as expected, it was stunning.

That seems like a woefully insufficient description for a movie of this scope, but to some extent I'm still trying to mentally digest everything I just watched. I will say that I was honestly surprised that the movie packed as powerful an emotional punch as it did, and that a story grounded so heavily in theoretical science could even accomplish such a feat. But, then...NOLAN COMBO, so yeah.

I also think that this is easily the most groundbreaking "hard" science fiction film since 2001: A Space Odyssey. And that is saying a hell of a lot.

EDIT: Also, to quote Noriko Takaya... "Einstein is a meanie."

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So I saw it tonight. Probably the greatest realisation of true ambition -- as opposed to grandiose -- I've seen on film. That said, if I ever happen to hear the wave music as I'm walking down the street then I'm running for my fuckin' life.

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Loki Kola wrote:
So I saw it tonight. Probably the greatest realisation of true ambition -- as opposed to grandiose -- I've seen on film. That said, if I ever happen to hear the wave music as I'm walking down the street then I'm running for my fuckin' life.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I become that Interstellar is Christopher Nolan's greatest cinematic triumph to date. And that is saying quite a bit.

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