Can't help but notice that the proposed starting roster is overwhelmingly female...also not sure about the inclusion of Hawk and Dove, though the rest sounds pretty promising.Titans TV Series Roster Reveal
By Andrew Steinbeiser
A leaked script from TNT’s Titans series has potentially revealed the lineup for the DC Comics television adaptation of the Teen Titans franchise.
Heading the team, unsurprisingly, will be Dick Grayson. According to the pilot’s script, Dick will begin the series as Robin following a recent split with Batman, but will eventually grow into the mantle of Nightwing as he did in the comics. Dick will set up the Titans’ shop in Boston, which is a departure from the Titans’ New York City roots.
Joining Dick from Gotham City will be Barbara Gordon. In this version, Barbara will be Oracle in everything but the name. According to Nerdist’s report on the script, Barbara will be in a wheel-chair and operate as the Titan’s information source, but she will not officially go by the Oracle moniker. This will be Barbara’s first time as a member of the Titans in any medium.
Next are Raven and Starfire, who have been anchoring member of the Titans since Marv Wolfman’s and George Perez’s New Teen Titans series. According to the script, Raven will carry the Rachel Roth alter-ego that Geoff Johns introduced during his run on the Teen Titans. The script didn’t provide any illuminating details on Starfire, other than that she wouldn’t appear until the Pilot’s finale.
Finally, Hawk and Dove will round out the Titans’ initial roster. Hawk will be Hank Hall and Dove will be Dawn Granger, the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths version. The report says that Hawk and Dove will be romantically involved with one another, as they were in the comics series.
Missing from the roster were other Titans stalwarts Beast Boy and Cyborg. While it's possible that they could join the series eventually, according to the report, their inclusion remains uncertain at this point. Beast Boy seems like an eventual possibility, but it's likely that Cyborg will remain off the table. Warner Bros. probably won't want contrasting versions between a television Cyborg and the big screen version that will appear in Zack Snyder's Justice League and solo Cyborg film.
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I guess it's unclear whether this is even connected to the previously announced series or not, as this will evidently be airing on DC's digital streaming service instead of TNT. But still...DC Comics blog wrote:Breaking News: Titans TV Show Gets its Raven
By Tim Beedle Thursday, August 3rd, 2017
Fortunately, unless you’re also a half-demon, you’re free to get emotional about this news. Titans, the new live action series coming to DC’s digital streaming network, has cast its first member—Raven.
Deadline announced today that actress Teagan Croft will be embodying the emotionally challenged young hero in her first live action appearance. Croft’s Raven is described as the daughter of a demon, and is a powerful empath who must keep her emotions in check or risk unleashing her demonic side.
Raven is the first casting announcement made for the eagerly anticipated Titans television series. Written by Akiva Goldsman (Star Trek: Discovery), DC Entertainment President and Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns (The Flash, Arrow) and Greg Berlanti (Arrow, DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow, The Flash, Supergirl), Titans will follow a group of young soon-to-be superheroes recruited from every corner of the DC Universe. In the action-adventure series, Dick Grayson emerges from the shadows to become the leader of a fearless band of new heroes that includes Starfire, Raven and others.
On the comics side, if you’re a fan of Marv Wolfman and George Perez’s iconic NEW TEEN TITANS, you know that it’s somewhat fitting that Raven is the first. In Wolfman and Perez’s iconic Titans run, it was Raven who reformed the Teen Titans to fight her demonic father after the Justice League refused to help.
While this will be the first time a live action Raven will be brought to the screen, we’ve seen an animated take on the character in both Teen Titans and the current Teen Titans Go! series on Cartoon Network, as well as in animated movies like Teen Titans: The Judas Contract. In those appearances, Raven is primarily known for her emotionless method of speaking and very dry humor. It remains to be seen whether Croft will take the same approach, or whether we’ll be seeing a different take on Raven when Titans debuts next year.
So this sounds like a pretty different take on Starfire from the one we've become most familiar with in recent years. Between this, and a 13-year-old Raven, well...I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we.DC Comics blog wrote:Breaking News: Starfire Takes Flight on Titans TV Show
By Tim Beedle Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017
Pardon our excitement, but this new Titans casting announcement has got us pretty fired up.
Deadline announced today that actress Anna Diop has been cast in the role of Starfire in the upcoming Titans live action series. This is the second series role to be cast after Teagan Croft was announced in the role of Raven earlier this month.
While fans of the Teen Titans comic and animated series are greatly familiar with Starfire (aka Koriand’r), for anyone who’s new to the character, she’s described as an alien princess from a warrior planet who seeks asylum on Earth. A no-nonsense, take-no-prisoners stranger on our world, Starfire has the ability to shoot energy bolts and fly. Searching for her place on Earth, she’ll come into contact with the Titans.
Titans was first announced last year and will debut as part of DC’s upcoming digital streaming network in 2018. Written by Akiva Goldsman (Star Trek: Discovery), DC Entertainment President and Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns (The Flash, Arrow) and Greg Berlanti (Arrow, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, The Flash, Supergirl), Titans will follow a group of young soon-to-be superheroes recruited from every corner of the DC Universe. Based on the extremely popular comic book super team, this will be the first time the Titans—and many of its members—are seen in live action.
Diop is perhaps most recently known for her role in 24: Legacy, though she also recently appeared in The Messengers and Quantico. While her action chops are bona fide, Starfire will be her first superhero role.
With much of the cast, as well as any news on villains or guest stars, still yet to be set, expect plenty of Titans news in the weeks and months ahead. Be sure to keep an eye on DCComics.com for the latest, or subscribe at DCFanUpdates.com to have breaking news and announcements on Titans, Young Justice: Outsiders and the DC streaming service delivered straight to your inbox.
Reporter Jean-François Allaire wrote the following, in which he quoted extensively from someone named "Ludens"...
So I must admit, that all sounds quite intriguing. Thoughts?Jean-François Allaire wrote:“It’s about time we had another excellent superhero television show. It seems, in recent years, that the quality promised to us by the early seasons of DAREDEVIL, THE FLASH, ARROW, and even JESSICA JONES has been forgotten amongst the need to pump out a season every year. While we have a top-notch television in LEGION, we need higher standards across the board to honestly justify the amount of content that is being produced annually. From IRON FIST to SUPERGIRL, the small-screen superhero has been neglected to an almost laughably terrible level. So when a project comes along that stands out from the crowd, it deserves the praise. Here’s the inside scoop on TITANS (Episode One).
The Teen Titans are one of the most popular superhero groups in pop culture. The early 2000s cartoon of the same name garnered strong social and critical acclaim, lasting five seasons before relaunching under TEEN TITANS GO! (a show geared more towards children). The yearning for another season of the original cartoon is still strong amongst fans today, proving there’s an enduring desire for the return of the titular superhero group. And while TITANS aren’t similar to the original TEEN TITANS cartoon in any significant way, I’m sure it’s going to satisfy a hungry audience more than.
The pilot of TITANS is centered on three heroes, Robin, Raven, and Starfire (Brenton Thwaites, Teegan Croft, Anna Diop), but it begins with a flashback. The Flying Grayson Circus. This flashback is used as both a primer to the backstory of Dick Grayson (Robin) and an introduction to Rachel Roth (Raven). It does a respectable job at making the audience understand Robin’s character, akin to that of Bruce Wayne in the Batman films. It also gives a robust taste of what’s to come with Raven, highlighting her unstable psyche and untapped power. However, the rest of the pilot is structured very much around the individual heroes. Each first Act begins with a chyron separating the protagonists from each other. In this sense, it could be considered similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where each hero is given an introductory film to get the audience invested and are then brought together in an ensemble movie.
Before we get into the individual character breakdowns for the first episode, I think it’s important to discuss the tone of the show. TITANS is very much not a series for children. There are multiple f-bombs and s-bombs, among other swear-words that make it seem like they’re going for an R-rating. Moreover, the action is brutal, with bone snaps, people being shot, burned, and mangled. It’s a departure from the more joyful tone that many associates with the group, but it’s a departure that I feel is for the best. It’s refreshing to see a DC show that’s no-holds-barred instead of shying away from the more mature aspects of the mythology. It’s not as adult as something like JESSICA JONES, but it’s far darker than anything DC has put out on the small screen thus far. What separates TITANS from some of Marvel’s darker shows is the fact that it doesn’t ever really aim to be realistic. TITANS doesn’t shy away from the big, fantastical spectacle, and instead embraces the comic roots of the characters. We can have a realistic Robin fight scene, but we can also have Starfire blasting away goons with a burst of fire. It’s a mixture of realism and fantasy that I think works great.
ROBIN is the first character we are introduced to. At this stage in his life, decades after the Flying Grayson Incident, Dick Grayson is in a terrible place. It’s not the Robin many of you are accustomed to. He doesn’t work with Batman anymore after growing to hate him and leaving Gotham for San Francisco. He’ll sometimes see a shadow of Batman, only to turn around and realize it’s his own. He’s afraid of becoming like Bruce. Nevertheless, he still wears the Robin suit instead of a Nightwing costume (which would make much more sense). In this iteration of the character, Grayson has taken up the career of being a Detective on the police force. We are introduced to some of the series’ side characters like Detective Rohrbach and Wolf, and we also notice Grayson’s plain apathy towards them. See, Robin doesn’t work with people anymore. After what Batman did to him, he’s shut himself off from any relationships, absorbing himself in his work. It’s an exciting choice for the character, and his development throughout the season will be one of its central pillars. We also get a glimpse into the action of the show, which looks to be phenomenal.
From there, we are taken to the next chyron— RAVEN. Here we get a more extensive look into the character of Rachel Roth than in the cold open. We get to see more of her mother, Angela, an insomniac trying to manage taking care of a problematic childlike Raven. It’s been difficult. Raven’s powers are also given some spotlight early on, highlighting a deeply disturbed, almost demonic individual residing inside her. Rachel’s neighbors are well-aware of her strangeness, as are her classmates, who regularly bully her. It’s clear that Raven’s relationships at school are going to be a big part of her story moving forward. It is also within this Act that we are introduced to one of the main antagonists of the story, The Acolyte: a mysterious hitman whose intentions and superiors are unclear, but hint at a more extensive narrative at play. Without spoilers, let’s say that the Acolyte prompts some change within Rachel’s life that launch the entire show into motion.
Before we get the next chyron, we are given some more story developments with Robin and Raven. And then, the next act— STARFIRE. She is probably the most intriguing character in the pilot episode, introduced in an enthrallingly enigmatic fashion. When we first meet her, Starfire is in smack in the middle of a car crash, her driver is embedded in the bloodied windshield, and armed men are chasing her for a reason unknown to us. Also, I think this is a good time to mention her outfit and appearance, as the recent set photos have caused some controversy amongst fans. Starfire is introduced to us the night after a DISCO PARTY. The reason she looks like someone out of a 1970s club is that she was at one. Her dress and hairstyle aren’t part of her usual look. So, everyone needs to relax a bit and wait for the official image. Okay… back to the story. On the escape, Starfire finds out she has multiple passports and can speak multiple languages— the identity of this woman is an absolute mystery. Some more events transpire (which I won’t divulge into for spoiler’s sake), and she is propelled on a mission that will sow the seeds for TITANS.We are chronologically reaching the end of the pilot, so the following will be very vague to avoid ruining some of the best moments of the episode. Towards the end, the culmination of the previous 50 minutes takes a head. There’s spectacle, violence, and mystery that acts as both a satisfying finish for the episode and a definite beginning for the rest of the show. The absolute greatest, the most jaw-dropping moment of the pilot happens here, and it’s so good. But you’ll have to see the episode yourself to find out what it is…
Overall, the pilot of TITANS is an excellent introduction to the series. We get an overview of the show’s central characters, the darker tone, some of the action, and a taste and the grander narrative at play. For those disenfranchised with DC’s latest TV shows, or even cheesy superhero shows in general, be on the lookout for this one.”
Then I watched the second and third episodes, because
THIS SHOW KICKS ASS.
Yes, it is a very different and much darker, or more accurately more mature, take on the Titans than any of the animated versions. Frankly, it's much closer in tone and feel to the comics, which makes sense since Geoff Johns is directly involved in the writing.
Now I have to sleep so that I can wake up in time to eat, later. Damn it.
Cylor: Man. I seriously cannot believe how awesome this show is. Even what initially looked like questionable casting and character choices have turned out to be brilliant.
The Phiend: ....So you're going to tell me about the questionable casting/character choices.
Cylor: Well, to recap those... Raven's 13, Starfire's black, and Beast Boy is this young Asian guy. But as strange as that sounds... it all WORKS.
Obviously these are very different takes on the characters, yet the core of who they are remains surprisingly recognizable and familiar.
I think I had the most doubts, or at least questions, about Starfire. And I suspect the actress was probably cast at least in part for her height, as she's really tall. But I was surprised at how quickly I got used to her.
Now, this is a VERY different Starfire; she has very little of the innocence and charming naivete that she did in the animated series, or even the comics. Yet, there are still moments where she has a very... Starfire-ish smile, if that makes any sense.
She has near-total amnesia, has no idea who or what she is, and only knows that she is on a mission to find Raven, but does not know why. And anyone who comes between her and that mission is going to be very badly hurt and/or killed.
Robin is also a much more brooding and secretive version of himself, having left Gotham and joined the Detroit police force in a not-very-successful effort to leave his increasingly violent past as Robin behind him.
Contrary to what some of the trailers have seemed to suggest, he does NOT go around casually killing people, although he doesn't hesitate to maim or mutilate, and the beatings he dishes out could very easily, and probably would result in people dying after the fact, realistically speaking. But although the fights are incredibly violent, it's clear that he doesn't casually use lethal force unless forced to defend himself against the same.
Raven's a (young) teenager trying to deal with the escalating manifestation of her demonic powers and persona. Initially she's shown living with her extremely stressed-out "mother" (who is actually NOT Angela/Arella, but some other stand-in), who clearly was secretly working for some group trying to protect Raven, who is quickly targeted by numerous factions who are either trying to prevent her dark destiny from occurring, or ensuring that it does.
The only thing that bugs me is that she goes by Rachel instead of Raven, but I guess we can't have everything.
Cylor: Beast Boy actually does start out with the Doom Patrol, which is one of many very cool touches, and ways in which this show manages to mirror or refer back to the characters' traditional backgrounds and origins in surprising ways. It's because he was "cured" by the Chief in the Congo, who is as much of a manipulative bastard here as he is in the comics, if not more so.
The only animal he's learned to turn into so far is a not-totally-convincing CGI green tiger. His transformation also takes much longer here, it isn't instantaneous. But he's never bitten anyone, because... guess why.
He's a vegan (and also doesn't like blood).
Cylor: Hawk and Dove have only been in a couple episodes so far but are surprisingly interesting, and their costumes are also surprisingly close to the way they looked in the comics.
The Phiend: Which ones?
Cylor: Hank and Dawn.
In a very startling development, Jason Todd just kinda showed up. At first he seems like a much younger and less serious Robin, but he's eventually revealed to have a very definite psychotic streak.
The Phiend: Okay. There've been a couple of each, hence why I asked...and it just occured to me that we could have a triple power play with the Grangers: Dawn, Holly and Hermione.
Cylor: That did cross my mind. In fact, for some reason I was expecting this to be a different Hawk and Dove.
(AND DICK GRAYSON WOULD BANG THEM ALL but that's a whole other tangent.)
Also he has Donna Troy's name in his phone, so maybe that means she's going to make an appearance, as well.
Batman has been mentioned numerous times, of course, but has not yet actually been fully depicted on screen.
I must point out that this trailer DOES contain some pretty major spoilers for season 1, so if you haven't watched that yet, you may want to hold off on this until afterward.