Who even cares at this point?
My mind has not changed since I first made this thread. I think Star Wars is done. We've had our fun, the franchise has had its time, and now Disney is driving the fanbase away. It will never again possess the cultural impact and influence it once had. Because - and I can't stress this enough - Last Jedi is still a thing.
Retcon that crap, and then we'll talk. But as it stands, at the very least, I'm done with the franchise for the next decade or so.
I don't completely agree, but I don't completely dis
agree, either, if that makes any sense. I guess my attitude at this point is one of ambivalence, if not outright resignation.
Because the fact of the matter is, Last Jedi is
a thing, and, barring some extraordinary turn of events like Lucas buying Star Wars back from Disney or something equally unlikely, it's always going to be
a thing. I'm not any happier about that than you are, but that's simply the way it is. As for this movie, I'll still go, but in all honesty it feels more like an obligation than anything. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but my expectations are...well, let's say they're being very strictly managed
You've argued that one of things that contributed to the original trilogy turning out so well was the fact that there was an atmosphere of healthy collaboration between Lucas and the other writers and directors, and I wouldn't presume to dispute that. I would also argue that most, if not all, of this current trilogy's biggest and most objective problems have stemmed from the total and complete absence
of that, as well as the lack of any consistent, overarching vision.
What happened with the previous movie is this, and I'm trying to be as objective about this description as I can be. J.J. Abrams planted the seeds for many ideas and concepts in Force Awakens, the merit of which can be a matter of opinion and debate, but I think a lot of them at least had potential. He also apparently laid out a very rough draft of an overall plot for the rest of the trilogy, which he then handed off to Rian Johnson on his way out the door. Johnson then proceeded to completely ignore everything Abrams had laid out when he made Last Jedi, and not only went off in a totally different direction, but actively torpedoed any possibility for a third film to return to Abrams' original plot by killing Snoke, wiping out all but about a dozen of the
Resistance, and making a total jackass out of Luke Skywalker before killing him
off, too. And apparently there was no one
running Lucasfilm at the time to rein him in or steer him back on course. On top of that, at no point in the production of Last Jedi was there ever any collaboration, consultation, or communication between Johnson and Abrams, whatsoever.
And that's the part that really blows my
None of that is biased speculation or conjecture on my part, either. These are all objective, established, undisputed facts.
Well...on a more positive note, I am
still looking forward to the Obi-Wan series
, at least.